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PostSubject: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 6:54 pm

chris chambers for a 2nd?
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 7:10 pm

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chris chambers for a 2nd?

that is sad
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 7:40 pm

actually its a good trade for the fins

theyre 0-6 so theyre basically out of playoff contention as it is. So why not think towards youth
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 7:57 pm

because right now i can officially say that they are in the top 3 worst franchises (least amount of hope for the next 5 yrs).
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:03 pm

I wouldnt say that... Theyre gonna have an early pick next year, will probably get brohm since they need a QB and they already have good young WRs (Ginn although he is more of a KR and they have Brown) and two second rounders to acquire some pass defense. They already have the best LBs in the game and a fairly solid D-line one could say. They should do well within the next 3 years tops. It takes a lot for a team to be bad for 5 consecutive years (like the Raiders, unless the fins draft all busts with their early first or firsts depending how long they suck for, they should be back in business soon).
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:09 pm

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I wouldnt say that... Theyre gonna have an early pick next year, will probably get brohm since they need a QB and they already have good young WRs (Ginn although he is more of a KR and they have Brown) and two second rounders to acquire some pass defense. They already have the best LBs in the game and a fairly solid D-line one could say. They should do well within the next 3 years tops. It takes a lot for a team to be bad for 5 consecutive years (like the Raiders, unless the fins draft all busts with their early first or firsts depending how long they suck for, they should be back in business soon).

They wont get Brohm...
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:13 pm

well they might depending on who gets the #1 pick (if they need a HB theyd get mcfadden), and as of now the fins are tied for worst team with I think the rams. So as it stands now theyre on pace to it, especially considering they traded away their #1 WR
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:13 pm

Dude... they wont be geting McFadden either lol...

They have Ronnie Brown and they have John Beck.. they will go defense and they will probably get Dorsey
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:18 pm

I never said theyd take mcfadden, I said if the #1 pick needed a HB theyd take mcfadden, otherwise brohm might be the one picked.

and john beck sucks. Brohm or beck... hmmm
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:21 pm

He might suck but no team would waste a second rounder on a qb to go and use a first rounder on a qb the next year..

Trust me man, they go Dorsey
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:27 pm

satorini wrote:
He might suck but no team would waste a second rounder on a qb to go and use a first rounder on a qb the next year..

Trust me man, they go Dorsey

Agree with that, but I think they could trade down and collect picks and take someone else.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:31 pm

I really dont think theyre gonna take Dorsey unless they trade down. And Beck's a 26 year old rookie, QBs take a long time to develop fully in the NFL so im not even sure why they picked him there to begin with. Brohm would be a better choice for them IMO, you can have your own opinion but this is mine, Brohm will do more for them than Dorsey will
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:36 pm

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I really dont think theyre gonna take Dorsey unless they trade down. And Beck's a 26 year old rookie, QBs take a long time to develop fully in the NFL so im not even sure why they picked him there to begin with. Brohm would be a better choice for them IMO, you can have your own opinion but this is mine, Brohm will do more for them than Dorsey will

probably, but his pt is the fins wont do that
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:41 pm

ummm yea I know but what does that have to do with anything lol, thats his opinion and in mine I think they will (which I stated in the post)
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 8:52 pm

satorini wrote:
He might suck but no team would waste a second rounder on a qb to go and use a first rounder on a qb the next year..

Trust me man, they go Dorsey
Ya they have a ton of faith in Beck, thats why Cleo Lemon is starting over him Rolling Eyes .
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 9:03 pm

Jeez do you just have a hard on to pick fights with me... Im going to leave this one alone, i suggest you do the same.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 9:07 pm

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Jeez do you just have a hard on to pick fights with me... Im going to leave this one alone, i suggest you do the same.
wtf no dude you have a hrd on to pick fights with me, you were discussing John Beck I said if they have so much confidence why is Cleo Lemon starting over him and you come in here saying I have a hard on to fight with you? WTF does cleo lemon have to do with you
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 9:10 pm

and replying to the original post, Chris Chamber for a second is a GREAT trade for the Dolphins. Randy Moss went for a fourth.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 9:15 pm

I just read through the posts i made.. no where did i say that they have a huge amount of confidence in Beck...

Here is what I said and try to follow me here...

You do not use a first day draft pick on a QB and then turn around the next year and use another high draft pick on a QB..

The Miami Dolphins have bigger problems, no run defense.. (again, all this information is coming from ESPN.com, you can check it out)

When it comes to the passing game, its not their QB's fault, it is the O-Line... So if they do not get Dorsey then they will go for Jake Long..

I never said they had confidence in Beck, but they still want to see how he reacts and he will get his chance in the next coming weeks.. Even if he is horrible, they will not waste a pick on him because they have more pressing needs.. look back at the run defense, to have a luxury pick in getting another qb..
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 9:19 pm

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I never said they had confidence in Beck, but they still want to see how he reacts and he will get his chance in the next coming weeks.. Even if he is horrible, they will not waste a pick on him because they have more pressing needs.. look back at the run defense, to have a luxury pick in getting another qb..

theyre 21st in run defense
and 26th in passing offense

you do the math..
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 9:20 pm

and theyre 26th in pass defense

so no, run defense shouldnt be their first priority dude
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 9:21 pm

Will you stop trying to make me look like I dont know anything about football by using your dumb (Again this is all on ESPN crap).

You also dont use a high pick on a QB and then have him be your 3rd stringer and backup Cleo fricken Lemon. They wont pick Glenn Dorsey, the Dolphins will do something that shocks everyone. Who would have said Ted Ginn would be a top 10 pick last year?
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 9:23 pm

Guys... its ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=team&sort=ryds&pos=def&league=nfl&season=2&year=2007

I see them as 32nd in the league... research my admin buddy.. research
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 9:23 pm

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
satorini wrote:
I never said they had confidence in Beck, but they still want to see how he reacts and he will get his chance in the next coming weeks.. Even if he is horrible, they will not waste a pick on him because they have more pressing needs.. look back at the run defense, to have a luxury pick in getting another qb..

theyre 21st in run defense
and 26th in passing offense

you do the math..
Excellent point. Their pass defense hurts them more in the running game, their CBs are AWFUL so they have to have the Safetys help them a lot and have the LBs drop into coverage more then they should which leads some pretty good running lanes. IMO they will trade back with a team who wants Darren McFadden and take the best CB/S/LB on the board. Yes their LBs are sick but how old are they? Their two best players are well over 30.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF   WTF Icon_minitimeTue Oct 16, 2007 9:25 pm

They are not 21st in run defense, they are 32nd...
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