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Who do you want to be the next President? | Hillary Clinton | | 4% | [ 1 ] | Barack Obama | | 50% | [ 13 ] | John Edwards | | 0% | [ 0 ] | Mitt Romney | | 4% | [ 1 ] | Rudy Giuliani | | 4% | [ 1 ] | Mike Huckaby | | 12% | [ 3 ] | John McCain | | 4% | [ 1 ] | Other | | 22% | [ 6 ] |
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Ruskie89 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1816 Localisation : 2089, 2089, 2089.... Registration date : 2007-10-24
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:02 pm | |
| - SoxNats08 wrote:
- What the fuck are you guys thinking? Do you even care about the thousands of innocent lives you are taking? Imagine the children in those poor countries, who haven't done anything, but will get killed because some stupid Americans (thats how everyone outside of the US views us) bombed us? That might have been the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
First, Muslims didn't seem to care about us during 9/11. Secondly, I will take in the same consideration as the Muslim people in the middle east did when they danced after they heard about 9/11. They would have brought it upon themselves. They know that right now, we don't harm innocents, and they use that, they hide among civilians, pose as them. If we wipe them all out, yes, there are many good people who will die, but it's like the saying, would you kill one 8 year old girl with a gun if it meant acquiring the cure to say, AIDS? I have heard stories about snakes, especially more venomous ones in the jungles of India and such. They say if you get bit by one at say, the forearm, you must immediately cut your arm off with a machete (it's in the jungle) in order to have a chance to save your life. You not only lose your forearm, you lose your fingers. Relate that to the Middle East. In addition, with a Nuke, you can rest assured US troops will not die over there anymore. I also find it HIGHLY amusing that you actually care about what other people think, ESPECIALLY other countries. That's trying to be politically correct, cuz America has to conform to "other" countries' standards of who we should be. I guess I find it amusing because I'm not very politically correct, nor do I give a fuck what others think about me or my nation. You should listen to Critical Acclaim by Avenged Sevenfold And I'm going to take a wild swing and say you are a Democrat | |
| | | BarackObama4Prez Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1135 Localisation : In ur moms pants Registration date : 2007-07-12
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:41 pm | |
| - Ruskie89 wrote:
- SoxNats08 wrote:
- What the fuck are you guys thinking? Do you even care about the thousands of innocent lives you are taking? Imagine the children in those poor countries, who haven't done anything, but will get killed because some stupid Americans (thats how everyone outside of the US views us) bombed us? That might have been the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
First, Muslims didn't seem to care about us during 9/11.
Secondly, I will take in the same consideration as the Muslim people in the middle east did when they danced after they heard about 9/11.
They would have brought it upon themselves.
They know that right now, we don't harm innocents, and they use that, they hide among civilians, pose as them. If we wipe them all out, yes, there are many good people who will die, but it's like the saying, would you kill one 8 year old girl with a gun if it meant acquiring the cure to say, AIDS?
I have heard stories about snakes, especially more venomous ones in the jungles of India and such. They say if you get bit by one at say, the forearm, you must immediately cut your arm off with a machete (it's in the jungle) in order to have a chance to save your life. You not only lose your forearm, you lose your fingers. Relate that to the Middle East.
In addition, with a Nuke, you can rest assured US troops will not die over there anymore.
I also find it HIGHLY amusing that you actually care about what other people think, ESPECIALLY other countries. That's trying to be politically correct, cuz America has to conform to "other" countries' standards of who we should be. I guess I find it amusing because I'm not very politically correct, nor do I give a fuck what others think about me or my nation.
You should listen to Critical Acclaim by Avenged Sevenfold
And I'm going to take a wild swing and say you are a Democrat 1. only 0.0000000000000000000000001% of muslims supported this. 2. Your 8 yr old girl theory is the most fucking bullshit I have ever heard. We wouldnt just be killing one "eight year old". We would be destroying the lives of thousands of people. We had the people we wanted cornered, and we could have killed just them, and no one else. 3. I think it might be a good idea to cooperate with the rest of the world, because the United States wouldnt last a day without using the help of other countries. We probably should care what they think. 4. I am going to take a swing and guess that you have no clue what you are talking about, kinda like the dumbass that rules in washington. | |
| | | Wes Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1013 Age : 42 Localisation : Jersey Shore, PA Registration date : 2007-12-06
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:52 pm | |
| - BarackObama4Prez wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- SoxNats08 wrote:
- What the fuck are you guys thinking? Do you even care about the thousands of innocent lives you are taking? Imagine the children in those poor countries, who haven't done anything, but will get killed because some stupid Americans (thats how everyone outside of the US views us) bombed us? That might have been the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
First, Muslims didn't seem to care about us during 9/11.
Secondly, I will take in the same consideration as the Muslim people in the middle east did when they danced after they heard about 9/11.
They would have brought it upon themselves.
They know that right now, we don't harm innocents, and they use that, they hide among civilians, pose as them. If we wipe them all out, yes, there are many good people who will die, but it's like the saying, would you kill one 8 year old girl with a gun if it meant acquiring the cure to say, AIDS?
I have heard stories about snakes, especially more venomous ones in the jungles of India and such. They say if you get bit by one at say, the forearm, you must immediately cut your arm off with a machete (it's in the jungle) in order to have a chance to save your life. You not only lose your forearm, you lose your fingers. Relate that to the Middle East.
In addition, with a Nuke, you can rest assured US troops will not die over there anymore.
I also find it HIGHLY amusing that you actually care about what other people think, ESPECIALLY other countries. That's trying to be politically correct, cuz America has to conform to "other" countries' standards of who we should be. I guess I find it amusing because I'm not very politically correct, nor do I give a fuck what others think about me or my nation.
You should listen to Critical Acclaim by Avenged Sevenfold
And I'm going to take a wild swing and say you are a Democrat 1. only 0.0000000000000000000000001% of muslims supported this.
2. Your 8 yr old girl theory is the most fucking bullshit I have ever heard. We wouldnt just be killing one "eight year old". We would be destroying the lives of thousands of people. We had the people we wanted cornered, and we could have killed just them, and no one else.
3. I think it might be a good idea to cooperate with the rest of the world, because the United States wouldnt last a day without using the help of other countries. We probably should care what they think.
4. I am going to take a swing and guess that you have no clue what you are talking about, kinda like the dumbass that rules in washington. What I will say is this..saying Muslim, even though that's what they are, in afghanistan, does sound racist, cuz it's a label and it implies even those in the U.S. I know you don't mean that ruskie, i'm just sayin'. But the reality is more than the perception and the problem is much worse than people make it to be. | |
| | | eaglesfan90 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1966 Registration date : 2007-10-15
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:18 pm | |
| Trying hard not to get off topic, but Imperialism also leads to the downfall of the great empires, do I support what we did in Iraq?, no, but that's besides the point, lets get back to the politics | |
| | | Ruskie89 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1816 Localisation : 2089, 2089, 2089.... Registration date : 2007-10-24
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:22 pm | |
| - BarackObama4Prez wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- SoxNats08 wrote:
- What the fuck are you guys thinking? Do you even care about the thousands of innocent lives you are taking? Imagine the children in those poor countries, who haven't done anything, but will get killed because some stupid Americans (thats how everyone outside of the US views us) bombed us? That might have been the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
First, Muslims didn't seem to care about us during 9/11.
Secondly, I will take in the same consideration as the Muslim people in the middle east did when they danced after they heard about 9/11.
They would have brought it upon themselves.
They know that right now, we don't harm innocents, and they use that, they hide among civilians, pose as them. If we wipe them all out, yes, there are many good people who will die, but it's like the saying, would you kill one 8 year old girl with a gun if it meant acquiring the cure to say, AIDS?
I have heard stories about snakes, especially more venomous ones in the jungles of India and such. They say if you get bit by one at say, the forearm, you must immediately cut your arm off with a machete (it's in the jungle) in order to have a chance to save your life. You not only lose your forearm, you lose your fingers. Relate that to the Middle East.
In addition, with a Nuke, you can rest assured US troops will not die over there anymore.
I also find it HIGHLY amusing that you actually care about what other people think, ESPECIALLY other countries. That's trying to be politically correct, cuz America has to conform to "other" countries' standards of who we should be. I guess I find it amusing because I'm not very politically correct, nor do I give a fuck what others think about me or my nation.
You should listen to Critical Acclaim by Avenged Sevenfold
And I'm going to take a wild swing and say you are a Democrat 1. only 0.0000000000000000000000001% of muslims supported this.
2. Your 8 yr old girl theory is the most fucking bullshit I have ever heard. We wouldnt just be killing one "eight year old". We would be destroying the lives of thousands of people. We had the people we wanted cornered, and we could have killed just them, and no one else.
3. I think it might be a good idea to cooperate with the rest of the world, because the United States wouldnt last a day without using the help of other countries. We probably should care what they think.
4. I am going to take a swing and guess that you have no clue what you are talking about, kinda like the dumbass that rules in washington. 1. That would mean less than 1 Muslim in the world supports it. I'm pretty sure from magazines, news, etc. that we've seen more than one supporting it. 2. 1 girl for the lives of those with AIDS, One region for the safety of millions in US, GB, etc. 3. I agree to an extent, but trust me, they are not the end all be all. We could use their help, but we can always get someone else's help. Any way you look at it, money talks, regardless of whether you like a nation's decisions or not. 4. Yup, I'm 100% that actually believes what I see on TV. In addition, I'm pretty sure the President cannot "rule" Washington, there is a system of checks and balances. But nice try And on a final note, I would LOVE to have the link of the website of the statistics that you get (i.e. 0.0000000000000000000000001%; 499/500 are innocent, etc.). | |
| | | Ruskie89 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1816 Localisation : 2089, 2089, 2089.... Registration date : 2007-10-24
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:25 pm | |
| - eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Trying hard not to get off topic, but Imperialism also leads to the downfall of the great empires, do I support what we did in Iraq?, no, but that's besides the point, lets get back to the politics
Not necessarily imperialism, great empires in general simply fall after time from various reasons. | |
| | | Ruskie89 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1816 Localisation : 2089, 2089, 2089.... Registration date : 2007-10-24
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:32 pm | |
| - TheBigTunaKing wrote:
- BarackObama4Prez wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- SoxNats08 wrote:
- What the fuck are you guys thinking? Do you even care about the thousands of innocent lives you are taking? Imagine the children in those poor countries, who haven't done anything, but will get killed because some stupid Americans (thats how everyone outside of the US views us) bombed us? That might have been the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
First, Muslims didn't seem to care about us during 9/11.
Secondly, I will take in the same consideration as the Muslim people in the middle east did when they danced after they heard about 9/11.
They would have brought it upon themselves.
They know that right now, we don't harm innocents, and they use that, they hide among civilians, pose as them. If we wipe them all out, yes, there are many good people who will die, but it's like the saying, would you kill one 8 year old girl with a gun if it meant acquiring the cure to say, AIDS?
I have heard stories about snakes, especially more venomous ones in the jungles of India and such. They say if you get bit by one at say, the forearm, you must immediately cut your arm off with a machete (it's in the jungle) in order to have a chance to save your life. You not only lose your forearm, you lose your fingers. Relate that to the Middle East.
In addition, with a Nuke, you can rest assured US troops will not die over there anymore.
I also find it HIGHLY amusing that you actually care about what other people think, ESPECIALLY other countries. That's trying to be politically correct, cuz America has to conform to "other" countries' standards of who we should be. I guess I find it amusing because I'm not very politically correct, nor do I give a fuck what others think about me or my nation.
You should listen to Critical Acclaim by Avenged Sevenfold
And I'm going to take a wild swing and say you are a Democrat 1. only 0.0000000000000000000000001% of muslims supported this.
2. Your 8 yr old girl theory is the most fucking bullshit I have ever heard. We wouldnt just be killing one "eight year old". We would be destroying the lives of thousands of people. We had the people we wanted cornered, and we could have killed just them, and no one else.
3. I think it might be a good idea to cooperate with the rest of the world, because the United States wouldnt last a day without using the help of other countries. We probably should care what they think.
4. I am going to take a swing and guess that you have no clue what you are talking about, kinda like the dumbass that rules in washington. What I will say is this..saying Muslim, even though that's what they are, in afghanistan, does sound racist, cuz it's a label and it implies even those in the U.S. I know you don't mean that ruskie, i'm just sayin'.
But the reality is more than the perception and the problem is much worse than people make it to be. You get my point, Muslim = Most of Middle East, Afghanistan, Pakistan; Jewish = Israel; Hindu & Buddhist = India; Screwed = Africa. It seems that too many people actually believe too much of what the media portrays, and simply don't understand that the world is MUCH, MUCH more brutal than they can even imagine. A close friend of my father, who my father hangs out a lot with and talks with, travels all over the world for business. The three of us were talking one time, and he was describing a trip in the late 1990s to Saudi Arabia. He and his friend were staying at a hotel, on a balcony. They saw this one guy, who they later found out was a Frenchman, go out to the beach, which, although it was "public", was unofficially only for Muslims. He takes a swim, and on the way back, half of his head is blown off from a rifle bullet. He died because he swam in the ocean and was not a certain religion. Now, do you think that story made the news headlines? How many similar events occur that don't make the headlines? Just because you don't hear about it in the US news does NOT mean it doesn't happen. | |
| | | eaglesfan90 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1966 Registration date : 2007-10-15
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:12 pm | |
| - Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Trying hard not to get off topic, but Imperialism also leads to the downfall of the great empires, do I support what we did in Iraq?, no, but that's besides the point, lets get back to the politics
Not necessarily imperialism, great empires in general simply fall after time from various reasons. Which is usually directly or indirectly caused by imperialism/greed | |
| | | eaglesfan90 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1966 Registration date : 2007-10-15
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:16 pm | |
| - Ruskie89 wrote:
A close friend of my father, who my father hangs out a lot with and talks with, travels all over the world for business. The three of us were talking one time, and he was describing a trip in the late 1990s to Saudi Arabia. He and his friend were staying at a hotel, on a balcony. They saw this one guy, who they later found out was a Frenchman, go out to the beach, which, although it was "public", was unofficially only for Muslims. He takes a swim, and on the way back, half of his head is blown off from a rifle bullet. He died because he swam in the ocean and was not a certain religion. Now, do you think that story made the news headlines? How many similar events occur that don't make the headlines? Just because you don't hear about it in the US news does NOT mean it doesn't happen. Americans are unable to understand the scope of religious differences because the majority of Americans don't have such a feverish and avid dedication towards religion as many do in the Middle East | |
| | | max1 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1934 Age : 30 Registration date : 2007-07-15
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:19 pm | |
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| | | eaglesfan90 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1966 Registration date : 2007-10-15
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:34 pm | |
| Is it against the rules to speak intellectually about politics? | |
| | | Ruskie89 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1816 Localisation : 2089, 2089, 2089.... Registration date : 2007-10-24
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:10 am | |
| - eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Trying hard not to get off topic, but Imperialism also leads to the downfall of the great empires, do I support what we did in Iraq?, no, but that's besides the point, lets get back to the politics
Not necessarily imperialism, great empires in general simply fall after time from various reasons. Which is usually directly or indirectly caused by imperialism/greed Agreed to some extent, although not all situations. | |
| | | Ruskie89 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1816 Localisation : 2089, 2089, 2089.... Registration date : 2007-10-24
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:11 am | |
| - eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
A close friend of my father, who my father hangs out a lot with and talks with, travels all over the world for business. The three of us were talking one time, and he was describing a trip in the late 1990s to Saudi Arabia. He and his friend were staying at a hotel, on a balcony. They saw this one guy, who they later found out was a Frenchman, go out to the beach, which, although it was "public", was unofficially only for Muslims. He takes a swim, and on the way back, half of his head is blown off from a rifle bullet. He died because he swam in the ocean and was not a certain religion. Now, do you think that story made the news headlines? How many similar events occur that don't make the headlines? Just because you don't hear about it in the US news does NOT mean it doesn't happen. Americans are unable to understand the scope of religious differences because the majority of Americans don't have such a feverish and avid dedication towards religion as many do in the Middle East I understand that it's perfectly normal for a French business man, who was not warned or informed by any sign, that taking a swim at a public beach requires death. | |
| | | eaglesfan90 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1966 Registration date : 2007-10-15
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:18 am | |
| - Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
A close friend of my father, who my father hangs out a lot with and talks with, travels all over the world for business. The three of us were talking one time, and he was describing a trip in the late 1990s to Saudi Arabia. He and his friend were staying at a hotel, on a balcony. They saw this one guy, who they later found out was a Frenchman, go out to the beach, which, although it was "public", was unofficially only for Muslims. He takes a swim, and on the way back, half of his head is blown off from a rifle bullet. He died because he swam in the ocean and was not a certain religion. Now, do you think that story made the news headlines? How many similar events occur that don't make the headlines? Just because you don't hear about it in the US news does NOT mean it doesn't happen. Americans are unable to understand the scope of religious differences because the majority of Americans don't have such a feverish and avid dedication towards religion as many do in the Middle East I understand that it's perfectly normal for a French business man, who was not warned or informed by any sign, that taking a swim at a public beach requires death. Did I say it was alright for him to die?, no, I am stating that the lack of such dedication to religion means Americans do not have the capacity to understand exactly what religion really means to these people | |
| | | Ruskie89 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1816 Localisation : 2089, 2089, 2089.... Registration date : 2007-10-24
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:36 am | |
| - eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
A close friend of my father, who my father hangs out a lot with and talks with, travels all over the world for business. The three of us were talking one time, and he was describing a trip in the late 1990s to Saudi Arabia. He and his friend were staying at a hotel, on a balcony. They saw this one guy, who they later found out was a Frenchman, go out to the beach, which, although it was "public", was unofficially only for Muslims. He takes a swim, and on the way back, half of his head is blown off from a rifle bullet. He died because he swam in the ocean and was not a certain religion. Now, do you think that story made the news headlines? How many similar events occur that don't make the headlines? Just because you don't hear about it in the US news does NOT mean it doesn't happen. Americans are unable to understand the scope of religious differences because the majority of Americans don't have such a feverish and avid dedication towards religion as many do in the Middle East I understand that it's perfectly normal for a French business man, who was not warned or informed by any sign, that taking a swim at a public beach requires death. Did I say it was alright for him to die?, no, I am stating that the lack of such dedication to religion means Americans do not have the capacity to understand exactly what religion really means to these people I think any religion that sanctifies killing is plain wrong, but that my honest opinion. | |
| | | SoxNats08 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 6292 Age : 30 Localisation : New England Registration date : 2007-07-09
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:39 am | |
| - Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
A close friend of my father, who my father hangs out a lot with and talks with, travels all over the world for business. The three of us were talking one time, and he was describing a trip in the late 1990s to Saudi Arabia. He and his friend were staying at a hotel, on a balcony. They saw this one guy, who they later found out was a Frenchman, go out to the beach, which, although it was "public", was unofficially only for Muslims. He takes a swim, and on the way back, half of his head is blown off from a rifle bullet. He died because he swam in the ocean and was not a certain religion. Now, do you think that story made the news headlines? How many similar events occur that don't make the headlines? Just because you don't hear about it in the US news does NOT mean it doesn't happen. Americans are unable to understand the scope of religious differences because the majority of Americans don't have such a feverish and avid dedication towards religion as many do in the Middle East I understand that it's perfectly normal for a French business man, who was not warned or informed by any sign, that taking a swim at a public beach requires death. Did I say it was alright for him to die?, no, I am stating that the lack of such dedication to religion means Americans do not have the capacity to understand exactly what religion really means to these people I think any religion that sanctifies killing is plain wrong, but that my honest opinion. I agree with you there. I also don't think that a religion which sanctifies killing is worse than the people who senselessly nuke them. | |
| | | Ruskie89 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1816 Localisation : 2089, 2089, 2089.... Registration date : 2007-10-24
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:42 am | |
| - SoxNats08 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
A close friend of my father, who my father hangs out a lot with and talks with, travels all over the world for business. The three of us were talking one time, and he was describing a trip in the late 1990s to Saudi Arabia. He and his friend were staying at a hotel, on a balcony. They saw this one guy, who they later found out was a Frenchman, go out to the beach, which, although it was "public", was unofficially only for Muslims. He takes a swim, and on the way back, half of his head is blown off from a rifle bullet. He died because he swam in the ocean and was not a certain religion. Now, do you think that story made the news headlines? How many similar events occur that don't make the headlines? Just because you don't hear about it in the US news does NOT mean it doesn't happen. Americans are unable to understand the scope of religious differences because the majority of Americans don't have such a feverish and avid dedication towards religion as many do in the Middle East I understand that it's perfectly normal for a French business man, who was not warned or informed by any sign, that taking a swim at a public beach requires death. Did I say it was alright for him to die?, no, I am stating that the lack of such dedication to religion means Americans do not have the capacity to understand exactly what religion really means to these people I think any religion that sanctifies killing is plain wrong, but that my honest opinion. I agree with you there. I also don't think that a religion which sanctifies killing is worse than the people who senselessly nuke them. Difference: One already does, the other is hypothetically speaking option that won't occur. | |
| | | BarackObama4Prez Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1135 Localisation : In ur moms pants Registration date : 2007-07-12
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:34 am | |
| - Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
A close friend of my father, who my father hangs out a lot with and talks with, travels all over the world for business. The three of us were talking one time, and he was describing a trip in the late 1990s to Saudi Arabia. He and his friend were staying at a hotel, on a balcony. They saw this one guy, who they later found out was a Frenchman, go out to the beach, which, although it was "public", was unofficially only for Muslims. He takes a swim, and on the way back, half of his head is blown off from a rifle bullet. He died because he swam in the ocean and was not a certain religion. Now, do you think that story made the news headlines? How many similar events occur that don't make the headlines? Just because you don't hear about it in the US news does NOT mean it doesn't happen. Americans are unable to understand the scope of religious differences because the majority of Americans don't have such a feverish and avid dedication towards religion as many do in the Middle East I understand that it's perfectly normal for a French business man, who was not warned or informed by any sign, that taking a swim at a public beach requires death. Did I say it was alright for him to die?, no, I am stating that the lack of such dedication to religion means Americans do not have the capacity to understand exactly what religion really means to these people I think any religion that sanctifies killing is plain wrong, but that my honest opinion. I hate talking too much about religon, it'll just snowball into a huge mess, but I have to say that every major religon has fought in wars and killed people. | |
| | | Ruskie89 Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1816 Localisation : 2089, 2089, 2089.... Registration date : 2007-10-24
| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:02 am | |
| - BarackObama4Prez wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- eaglesfan90 wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
A close friend of my father, who my father hangs out a lot with and talks with, travels all over the world for business. The three of us were talking one time, and he was describing a trip in the late 1990s to Saudi Arabia. He and his friend were staying at a hotel, on a balcony. They saw this one guy, who they later found out was a Frenchman, go out to the beach, which, although it was "public", was unofficially only for Muslims. He takes a swim, and on the way back, half of his head is blown off from a rifle bullet. He died because he swam in the ocean and was not a certain religion. Now, do you think that story made the news headlines? How many similar events occur that don't make the headlines? Just because you don't hear about it in the US news does NOT mean it doesn't happen. Americans are unable to understand the scope of religious differences because the majority of Americans don't have such a feverish and avid dedication towards religion as many do in the Middle East I understand that it's perfectly normal for a French business man, who was not warned or informed by any sign, that taking a swim at a public beach requires death. Did I say it was alright for him to die?, no, I am stating that the lack of such dedication to religion means Americans do not have the capacity to understand exactly what religion really means to these people I think any religion that sanctifies killing is plain wrong, but that my honest opinion. I hate talking too much about religon, it'll just snowball into a huge mess, but I have to say that every major religon has fought in wars and killed people. I'd have to agree for the most part. There are always screwballs who pretend they are under a certain religion in order to do something (Al-quida, the Crusades, etc.). | |
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| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:21 pm | |
| it wouldnt make sence to nuke the east.. we would just help them like with Japan, and then there would be more tension and then they would prob nuke us back and then theres another cold war and shit.. simple solution.. leave iraq and forget about the east | |
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| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:33 pm | |
| - BrettFavreIsYourFather wrote:
- it wouldnt make sence to nuke the east..
we would just help them like with Japan, and then there would be more tension and then they would prob nuke us back and then theres another cold war and shit..
simple solution.. leave iraq and forget about the east
In order for them to nuke us back, they'd need to have nukes, which Iran is currently trying to acquire. BTW, I can almost guarantee you that within 5-10 years: 1. Israel goes to War with Iran 2. US goes to War with Iran 3. Israel and US go to War with Iran | |
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| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:53 pm | |
| - Ruskie89 wrote:
- BrettFavreIsYourFather wrote:
- it wouldnt make sence to nuke the east..
we would just help them like with Japan, and then there would be more tension and then they would prob nuke us back and then theres another cold war and shit..
simple solution.. leave iraq and forget about the east
In order for them to nuke us back, they'd need to have nukes, which Iran is currently trying to acquire.
BTW, I can almost guarantee you that within 5-10 years:
1. Israel goes to War with Iran 2. US goes to War with Iran 3. Israel and US go to War with Iran Unless (hopefully) we have a democrat as president. | |
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| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:57 pm | |
| - Ruskie89 wrote:
- BrettFavreIsYourFather wrote:
- it wouldnt make sence to nuke the east..
we would just help them like with Japan, and then there would be more tension and then they would prob nuke us back and then theres another cold war and shit..
simple solution.. leave iraq and forget about the east
In order for them to nuke us back, they'd need to have nukes, which Iran is currently trying to acquire.
BTW, I can almost guarantee you that within 5-10 years:
1. Israel goes to War with Iran 2. US goes to War with Iran 3. Israel and US go to War with Iran they could have them now its not like we are watching there whole country 24-7 | |
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| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:17 pm | |
| - BrettFavreIsYourFather wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- BrettFavreIsYourFather wrote:
- it wouldnt make sence to nuke the east..
we would just help them like with Japan, and then there would be more tension and then they would prob nuke us back and then theres another cold war and shit..
simple solution.. leave iraq and forget about the east
In order for them to nuke us back, they'd need to have nukes, which Iran is currently trying to acquire.
BTW, I can almost guarantee you that within 5-10 years:
1. Israel goes to War with Iran 2. US goes to War with Iran 3. Israel and US go to War with Iran they could have them now
its not like we are watching there whole country 24-7 Actually, we can, with our satellites. Nuclear Missiles, the process to build them, the missiles themselves, it'll attract attention (security, etc.). I would be VERY shocked if they acquired a nuclear missile without our knowledge. | |
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| Subject: Re: Who do you want to be the next president? Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:04 pm | |
| - Ruskie89 wrote:
- BrettFavreIsYourFather wrote:
- Ruskie89 wrote:
- BrettFavreIsYourFather wrote:
- it wouldnt make sence to nuke the east..
we would just help them like with Japan, and then there would be more tension and then they would prob nuke us back and then theres another cold war and shit..
simple solution.. leave iraq and forget about the east
In order for them to nuke us back, they'd need to have nukes, which Iran is currently trying to acquire.
BTW, I can almost guarantee you that within 5-10 years:
1. Israel goes to War with Iran 2. US goes to War with Iran 3. Israel and US go to War with Iran they could have them now
its not like we are watching there whole country 24-7 Actually, we can, with our satellites. Nuclear Missiles, the process to build them, the missiles themselves, it'll attract attention (security, etc.). I would be VERY shocked if they acquired a nuclear missile without our knowledge. Well actually I am in (and so is Sox and PatsDynasty) a Model United Nations Event thing and this is my topic. Iran is being closely monitered by the U.N and no evidence has been found for construction of a weapon. There are several uranium enrichment plants but nothing that points to serious danger. Iran has even allowed the U.N to thoroughly inspect the plants to prove they are clean. Right now, only the United States doubts their explanation (using them for regular energy). | |
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